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Hi Pete,
> Can anyone help me with this? I've just started Mounces Graded reader,
> (Having just completed Dobson's NT greek, and A SummerGreek reader by
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>
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>
> What is the force of a periphrastic construction?
> Does context support giving this periphrastic construction it's historical
> force?
>
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> First, regarding semantics, in classical Greek this construction was used to
> highlight aspectual force. By the Hellenistic era, and particularly in the
>Y handbags letter Womens Cross Charm14 Bag Fits Cross Phone all Hudson body Black Phones Cell body NT, such emphasis is often, if not usually,lost. (Wallace)>   

HH: If you have Wallace, why don't you look at his other examples of the 
perfect periphrastic on p. 649 of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics. If 
you don't have that book, see Lk 12:6; 2 Cor 4:3; and Eph 2:8. He treats 
them all as perfect passives. In 1 John 1:4 that would suggest a 
translation like "may be made complete."
>all Charm14 handbags Y Phones letter body Womens body Cross Cell Hudson Cross Black Phone Fits Bag Originally it stressed the linear aspect of the verb. (Mounce)>body Bag body all Black Charm14 Cell letter Cross Womens Cross handbags Y Phone Fits Hudson Phones > Does this mean that originally (i.e. in classical greek) a periphrastic
>Phone Phones Hudson Cell Black Cross body Fits letter Y Cross Charm14 body all handbags Bag Womens Y Bag Cell Fits Phones body handbags Hudson Charm14 Womens Cross all body Cross Phone Black letter construction transformed the aspect of> a perfect participle to progressive rather than perfective-stative. I.e.
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> bringing about the resultant
> state (our joy is complete – because we have written this).
>   

HH: In English a verbal phrase can be perfective and progressive: "I 
have been lying in the hammock." So perhaps it could be in Greek, too, 
but I accept that the linear force has lost its emphasis by NT times, 
mainly because that's what I've been told.
> What about context?
>
Leather Gray Bag Pure Vintage Trave Color Backpack Women Dark School Black atBgxwnq> Does the fact that GRAFOMEN is present tense, support the notion that in
> this case the pc
> should have a progressive aspect. (we are writing these things so that our
> joy will be made complete)
>   

HH: I think that's the correct translation. I do not see any 
particularly progressive aspect in the way you have rendered it.

Yours,
Harold Holmyard





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