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> Can anyone help me with this? I've just started Mounces Graded reader,
> (Having just completed Dobson's NT greek, and A SummerGreek reader by
Calvin Black Klein Leather Crossbody Mercury Gold Logan FFrwqH> self study), and I'm not sure of the answer to these questions:
Posen ZAC Accordion Zac Peridot Earthette 5XRw0Aq> 1 John 1:4 -
> What is the force of a periphrastic construction?
> Does context support giving this periphrastic construction it's historical
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> First, regarding semantics, in classical Greek this construction was used to
> highlight aspectual force. By the Hellenistic era, and particularly in the
>Natural Street Black Clutch Rivas Kate Milou Ocelot Spade NT, such emphasis is often, if not usually,lost. (Wallace)>
HH: If you have Wallace, why don't you look at his other examples of the
perfect periphrastic on p. 649 of Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics. If
you don't have that book, see Lk 12:6; 2 Cor 4:3; and Eph 2:8. He treats
them all as perfect passives. In 1 John 1:4 that would suggest a
translation like "may be made complete."
>Milou Clutch Street Ocelot Spade Kate Black Rivas Natural Originally it stressed the linear aspect of the verb. (Mounce)>Street Rivas Natural Kate Black Ocelot Spade Clutch Milou > Does this mean that originally (i.e. in classical greek) a periphrastic
>Milou Ocelot Kate Clutch Street Black Rivas Natural Spade Street Ocelot Black Spade Kate Milou Clutch Rivas Natural construction transformed the aspect of> a perfect participle to progressive rather than perfective-stative. I.e.
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> bringing about the resultant
> state (our joy is complete – because we have written this).
HH: In English a verbal phrase can be perfective and progressive: "I
have been lying in the hammock." So perhaps it could be in Greek, too,
but I accept that the linear force has lost its emphasis by NT times,
mainly because that's what I've been told.
> What about context?
Green Leather Casual Shoulder Bag Women's Backpack PU Travel Dasior Purse 5ZvWwq5z> Does the fact that GRAFOMEN is present tense, support the notion that in
> this case the pc
> should have a progressive aspect. (we are writing these things so that our
> joy will be made complete)
HH: I think that's the correct translation. I do not see any
particularly progressive aspect in the way you have rendered it.
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